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Vegetarian Rewrites of History

Posted on 2008.11.29 at 02:15

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paleo
[info]paleo at 2008-11-29 09:57 (UTC) (Link)
Wowie. Her advice on determining if Huna is "right" for someone basically boils down to the meaning of their birth name and how they react to Polynesian music. And all the talk of Lemuria, Higher Self, and soul mates is straight from New Age and other modern spiritual belief systems. No, I do not trust her authority on Hawaiian shamanism.
My advice is to get the cards if you can find them at a low price like I did and chunk the book. The cards are beautiful and could be very inspiring for those who are drawn to Hawaiian animals or sea creatures in general. But the book can't be trusted.
firehauke
[info]firehauke at 2008-11-29 12:15 (UTC) (Link)
Nod. LOL on her though, yikes.

Put a review up on Paganbooks!
(Anonymous) at 2008-12-17 04:36 (UTC) (Link)

Misunderstanding of hunalight.com

You are using anecdotal accounts from the website to make a point out of context which does not fit. People usually intuitively know whether Huna is right for them and the meaning of names is an integral part of Huna (the subject of my Ph.D. on it in fact), and provides a clue. The Higher Self, 'Aumakua is entirely true to Huna, and the fact that it has been appropriated by the New Age does not change that. Lemuria has been referred to again and again by people on remote islands all over the Pacific where I did my fieldwork who live traditional lives in remote valleys without modern communications and have never heard of the New Age - it is part of the ancient mythology. Again this has been appropriated, and does not change the original validity. Likewise Hawaii has developed the most complex society of love in History, a (Professor Sahlins 1985) and ways to 'meet' and 'recognize' your mate were highly, highly developed - again understood through the meanings of the ancient language. I translate these ideas into English to make them understandable by people who do not know the meanings of these ancient words. Perhaps though I will also put some Hawaiian on the website to give greater authenticity. Thank you.
paleo
[info]paleo at 2008-12-17 07:28 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Misunderstanding of hunalight.com

I'll break my usual rule about not responding to anonymous posts because I see no reason to doubt you are who you say you are and because your counterpoints have been generally polite. But if you wish to continue debate/explainations, I do suggest you get a free account so that you can be alerted to replies.
The Higher Self, 'Aumakua is entirely true to Huna, and the fact that it has been appropriated by the New Age does not change that.
It is because of such appropriation that I am leary of replacing phrase for a traditional belief with a phrase that is common jargon in modern spiritual movements without a deeper explaination. 'Aumakua may very well be best understood by non-Huna as "Higher Self" but I sincerely doubt that the way Huna approaches 'Aumakua is identical to the way New Agers approach Higher Self. And that's the problem. Someone with a New Age or neopagan background is likely to infer that Higher Self in Huna holds the same implications as what they have learned about Higher Self in their more modern traditions without bothering to learn the specific nuances and particulars of 'Aumakua. Without this education there will sadly be many who will simply believe that Huna is is a Hawaiian flavored version of the New Ageism they already practice and go no further, thus starting the process of watering down and mutating the true tradition.

Lemuria has been referred to again and again by people on remote islands all over the Pacific where I did my fieldwork who live traditional lives in remote valleys without modern communications and have never heard of the New Age - it is part of the ancient mythology. Again this has been appropriated, and does not change the original validity.

I know more about the Atlantian mythos (and its misuse) than Lemurian mythos. I'd be interested in knowing if the islanders you met specifically used the name Lemuria. If so, it would be educational to know when and how this idea was tacked on to New Age beliefs and how the two differ. If they used another term for Lemuria, I would consider it important to learn the original lore sans New Age interpretations of it.

I translate these ideas into English to make them understandable by people who do not know the meanings of these ancient words.
I can understand your motives for this and the fact that a fuller education might not be within the scope of the companion book to the The Hawaiian Oracle. However, there are many fast-food spiritualists out there who read one book and believe they know a subject. Being alerted to the fact that you did translate ideas into more modern terms for easier understanding and then directed to more advanced reading on Huna (your books and others) would have been nice.
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